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Get Dizzy: The Vertigo Thread

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  • Carpet LintCarpet Lint LIKE LIIIIGHTNIIIIIG Joined: Posts: 3,219Registered
    Uhura is Aisha in a Losers movie, which I didn't even know was being made until today?

    That is some crazy news.

    EDIT: And Stringer Bell is in this movie!?!
  • thecarnalcorpsethecarnalcorpse ~Damaged Joined: Posts: 285Registered
    You shouldn't Jeff Parker is taking over

    Damn, I've never read anything by him, but your confidence encourages me.
  • darksoul173darksoul173 HORI AT THEE Joined: Posts: 1,095Registered
    Damn, I've never read anything by him, but your confidence encourages me.

    Try Agents of Atlas you'll see why i'm confident
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    also the older you gets the less fun it is"
  • ZephyranthesZephyranthes Mad Mod Poet God Joined: Posts: 2,355Registered
    http://www.dccomics.com/media/excerpts/13286_1.pdf

    Read the first issue of Shade, The Changing Man here. It's my favorite comics series. They're doing a new printing of the first TRADE, BABY that should be out next month, and a volume 2 has been announced. Hopefully they'll have TRADES, BABY for the whole thing. I'd still buy 'em even though I have all the issues.
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  • darksoul173darksoul173 HORI AT THEE Joined: Posts: 1,095Registered
    Morrison new Vertigo book in January

    JOE THE BARBARIAN #1
    Written by Grant Morrison
    Art by Sean Murphy
    Cover by Sean Murphy
    Having an overactive imagination can get a kid through a lot, but it doesn?t change the facts: Joe?s still the kid in school that can?t fit in. He?s the victim of bullies. His dad died overseas in the Iraq war. And then there?s the Type 1 diabetes he has to live with.
    So is it insulin-deprived delirium or something much, much bigger that transports Joe to a land inhabited by all his toys ? from ninja commandos to action robots to magical knights to star fleet captains? Is Joe really the savior of this wild fantasyland that?s been held under siege by dark magic and evil forces? With the help of a samurai rodent, is he ready to take back besieged castles and win the freedom of an oppressed people? Or is he just an over imaginative boy who could die if he doesn?t take his meds?
    White-hot writer Grant Morrison follows up his phenomenal BATMAN AND ROBIN with an epic adventure that?s Home Alone by way of Lord of the Rings accompanied with to-die-for art by future superstar Sean Murphy (YEAR ONE: BATMAN/SCARECROW, HELLBLAZER).
    On sale January 20 ? 1 of 8 ? 32 pg, FC, $1.00 US ? MATURE READERS
    "Playing card games is just like making love, you usually do it on a table and you always feel deep shame when it's finished
    also the older you gets the less fun it is"
  • darksoul173darksoul173 HORI AT THEE Joined: Posts: 1,095Registered
    Fables #91 which came out today was not only great (i'm so happy the series is back being delicious again)
    It also had a preview of Morrison's new book Joe the Barbarian now i guess more Vertigo books will have this preview but since right now Fables is the only series i read monthly well....
    As for the series i still don't know what to think about it but it's Morrison so ill pick it up when its coming out
    "Playing card games is just like making love, you usually do it on a table and you always feel deep shame when it's finished
    also the older you gets the less fun it is"
  • ZephyranthesZephyranthes Mad Mod Poet God Joined: Posts: 2,355Registered
    You can read the first issue of Milligan's Human Target miniseries here:
    http://www.dccomics.com/media/excerpts/13673_1.pdf

    One of my favorite series. That first page is unforgettable:

    "Who am I? I am a reputation. I am a grainy photograph with dark bullet holes instead of eyes. I am a severed penis stuffed in a dying mouth. I am a person you come to if you want someone dead."

    Milligan is talented at writing catchy first pages that just draw you in. The first page of the first issues of Shade, X-Force, and most of his other Vertigo stuff all have excellent openings.

    No idea how the new TV series is going to turn out, but Human Target is one of the best Vertigo series of the decade. If it hadn't been canceled prematurely, it'd be right up there with 100 Bullets, FAAAAAAAAAABLES!!!!11!, and Y: The Last MAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!1!11! I guess with the new show coming out, DC's finally gonna get off their asses and start reprinting the TRADES, BABY.
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  • darksoul173darksoul173 HORI AT THEE Joined: Posts: 1,095Registered
    Morrison new book this week Joe The Barbarian
    "Playing card games is just like making love, you usually do it on a table and you always feel deep shame when it's finished
    also the older you gets the less fun it is"
  • Sheng-LongSheng-Long Joined: Posts: 1,397Registered
    I didn't even know there was going to be a Human Target tv series. I don't know who's involved but downloading it right now.
  • darksoul173darksoul173 HORI AT THEE Joined: Posts: 1,095Registered
    I didn't even know there was going to be a Human Target tv series. I don't know who's involved but downloading it right now.
    I liked the pilot a good old-school fun action
    "Playing card games is just like making love, you usually do it on a table and you always feel deep shame when it's finished
    also the older you gets the less fun it is"
  • darksoul173darksoul173 HORI AT THEE Joined: Posts: 1,095Registered
    So who picked (or should i say didn't picked) up Joe the Barbarian
    I kinda liked it but i know how Morrison stories work and you need to give them time to devlop and i realy think this is going to be a great series
    "Playing card games is just like making love, you usually do it on a table and you always feel deep shame when it's finished
    also the older you gets the less fun it is"
  • AmordienAmordien is watching his wife play your girl's tambourine. Joined: Posts: 938Registered
    Day. Fucking. One.
    I'd choke someone to have 2i Sean in 3s Online. Maybe? Perhaps? Hopefully? :sad:

    <@Amordien>; I want to know what Juri screams in pain in Japanese <@Amordien>; as she falls to the floor, dead <@_s4>; I eat dog<@Amordien>; LMAO
  • darksoul173darksoul173 HORI AT THEE Joined: Posts: 1,095Registered
    Day. Fucking. One.
    "I'm the black Macgyver BLAGYVER"
    "Playing card games is just like making love, you usually do it on a table and you always feel deep shame when it's finished
    also the older you gets the less fun it is"
  • ZephyranthesZephyranthes Mad Mod Poet God Joined: Posts: 2,355Registered
    Yeah, The Losers has quite the fine trailer. I'm looking forward to it. I'm also looking forward to maniacally devouring all the TRADES, BABY to refresh my memory in preparation.
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  • ZephyranthesZephyranthes Mad Mod Poet God Joined: Posts: 2,355Registered
    I highly recommend the Vertigo Resurrected book that came out last week. It's got Warren Ellis' Shoot (unpublished Hellblazer story that was censored due to subject matter and the fact that Ellis' run on Hellblazer coincided with Columbine) published for the first time, and in color to boot. There are also a smattering of short stories from A-list creators (Morrison/Quitely, Azzarello, Risso, Milligan, Ennis, etc.). The short stories are from various Vertigo anthologies that came out in the late '90s or early 2000s, and they are pretty great stuff.

    Shoot has been floating around on the internet for a long time, but there's something special about being able to hold it in your hands as you read it.

    100 pages for 8 bucks - it's a good deal.
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  • thecarnalcorpsethecarnalcorpse ~Damaged Joined: Posts: 285Registered
    Damn, I missed this thread.

    Yeah, I heard about that at my shop, but I thought they were referring to something a bit larger like a trade. I've never read anything by Warren Ellis or any Hellblazer for that matter, but it sounds like a hell of a deal considering the all-star talent that's featured. Coincidentally, Azzarello has stated that he and Risso will be joining forces again soon. I can't fucking wait, to say the least.
  • ZephyranthesZephyranthes Mad Mod Poet God Joined: Posts: 2,355Registered
    Yeah, it is a hell of a deal. Ellis is one of the best writers in comics and he's definitely one of my all-time favorites. A good starting point with either Ellis and/or Hellblazer would be the Hellblazer: Haunted TPB. Check it out if you ever get a chance. That book was actually my first serious exposure to Hellblazer, too.

    (Speaking of Ellis, this week I stumbled onto an awesome deal. Someone on Craigslist sold me an entire run of Transmetropolitan TRADES, BABY for only 20 bucks. Yup, twenty bucks! They say that a penny saved is a penny earned... I just came out on top.)

    The next Vertigo Resurrected book should come out in November. It'll collect The Extremist by Peter Milligan and Ted McKeever. This was one of Vertigo's original miniseries when they launched the imprint in the early '90s. I didn't discover until the early 2000's but it was what made me become a hardcore Milligan fan as well as a Vertigo fan. To quote Jack Kirby, "Don't ask, just buy it!"
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  • barzaad9564barzaad9564 The Naptown Tempest Joined: Posts: 1,192Registered
    DMZ and Greek Street are my shit... i love the nitty gritty feel of neo urban noir-ish titles... CANNOT! wait for Greek St. vol.2
    Hooli-once....HOOLIGAN!... say hello to disco for me...
    -All the chickens keep cluckin'... it's time to see some scratch-
  • thecarnalcorpsethecarnalcorpse ~Damaged Joined: Posts: 285Registered
    Excellent work on the Transmetropolitan score, and Hellblazer: Haunted is duly noted.

    So, I've been making a few cuts to my pull list, and I'm thinking that money would be better spent on something more Vertigo-ish. How does current Hellblazer fare? I'm still considering picking up Scalped, it seems like something I might enjoy. I can't really tell. I feel so pretentious just saying the word "Vertigo."

    By the way, what was the Azzarello story in that Resurrected book?
  • ZephyranthesZephyranthes Mad Mod Poet God Joined: Posts: 2,355Registered
    Greek Street is cool but it sucks that it got canceled, like far too many of Milligan's comics. And DMZ's good stuff, too - I'm just horribly behind on it. I think I only have the first three TRADES, BABY. I've noticed Vertigo books tend to be tougher to find in 50% off bins. I should probably be more consistent about supporting them by buying the books when they come out new.

    Scalped kicks ass. Pretty sure it would be right up your alley, carny. It's a crime noir in a setting that isn't totally contrived. I only have volume 1 but I've read it more than once. I'm just keeping my eye out for cheap deals so I can score the rest of the books one of these days.

    Current Hellblazer is awesome stuff, too. Milligan's been writing! But alas, I am behind on his run, too. I only have the first TRADE, BABY. But you can't go wrong. I honestly feel that, pound for pound, Hellblazer has been one of the most consistently good ongoing series ever. Even baseline average Hellblazer is as good as or more interesting than most of the other stuff DC, Marvel, and even Image crap out on a normal basis.

    The Azzarello story in the Vertigo Resurrected book is just a short story (8 pages, I think) from an old Vertigo anthology miniseries that came out earlier in the decade. Risso didn't draw it; I forget who did, and I don't have my copy on me right now. I think Risso might have drawn the Milligan short story in the book.

    Also, have you guys been reading the Vertigo Crime sub-imprint of hardback OGNs? I've read a few of them so far and they have all been really good, well worth owning. Filthy Rich was by Azz. Ian Rankin wrote a Hellblazer one. Christos Gage wrote Area 10, which was a fascinating crime story about trepanation - the art of drilling a hole into the skull. Area 10 was probably one of the best things I've ever read from Gage, and I think he's a very good writer, one of the best writers to rise to prominence in the past decade.

    The Bronx Kill by Milligan was probably my favorite of the ones I've read so far, though. That one is basically about a writer who is searching for his missing wife, only to find that the skeletons in his past may have something to do with the wreck his life has begun.

    I think the most recent one to come out is A Sickness in the Family by Denise Mina. I gotta get that. She's pretty great. She's a crime novelist but did an impressive year's run on Hellblazer a couple years ago. I've read one of her novels twice because I loved it that much.
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  • thecarnalcorpsethecarnalcorpse ~Damaged Joined: Posts: 285Registered
    Honestly, Hellblazer is probably something I could definitely get into, but it's one of those things that doesn't really interest me without a good read to hook me. I know that sounds presumptuous, but hear me out. For example, with Criminal and The Walking Dead, I have two amazing titles that also happen to involve two niches that I never get tired of: noir and zombies. I'm sure Hellblazer is interesting, but I feel as if I'd need to be invested in the story before I could buy it.

    So, I went to my shop and he was out of Vertigo Resurrected. The only other shop around here is this weak board game store and I don't know if their pretension meter is high enough to carry it. I didn't pick up Scalped either, because you said you'd only read Vol. 1, and I was hoping for a suggested issue to start at. Goddamn, I hate jumping on points.

    It's funny that you mention Christos Gage. I just dropped Hama's ARAH for the vastly superior Cobra series that he's cowriting with Mike Costa. I really hope it's the start of a long run, because it looks amazing. I wish I'd been buying it all along, because it's basically the way I'd approach writing G.I. Joe.

    That reminds me, are you buying Incognito individually or waiting for the...trade?
  • ZephyranthesZephyranthes Mad Mod Poet God Joined: Posts: 2,355Registered
    Now that Greek Street is done, Incognito/CRIMINAAAAAAAAAL!!!11 are the only series I will buy at full price at the store as soon as they are released. Everything else, I will wait for the TRADE, BABY or take a chance that I can find in a quarter bin six months down the line.

    You should check out Scalped because I'm pretty sure you'd like it. Just start with volume 1. It's only like 10 bucks for the first 5 issues. Even so, I'm sure any random issue off the racks would be enjoyable, like 100 Bullets was enjoyable no matter what you read. Sure, you might be lost in terms of knowing all the back story and characters' relationships, but I think comics like that are good enough where it doesn't matter if you don't know everything. You can still get into them just because they are strong stories executed with a high command of craft that they inspire you to seek out more. That's how I discovered SLEEEEEEEEEPER!!!1! for the first time: just picked up a random issue of Season One because the cover looked cool. Had no idea what the eff was going on but loved it so much I tracked down the rest of it.

    For Hellblazer, I would usually say that the hook of the title is the creative team. John Constantine is one of those characters in fiction that is sharply defined, but somehow still malleable enough that people can tell all sorts of stories with him. Kind of like Batman, in that regard, only with a better ratio of quality per issue. I would actually consider him a rather noirish character. Although he may not usually deal with crime like in typical crime stories, there's a hard-boiled element to the world he inhabits.
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  • thecarnalcorpsethecarnalcorpse ~Damaged Joined: Posts: 285Registered
    Excellent. We gotta do our part and help support Brubaker's endeavors. I love how he's always quick to encourage his readers to buy the comics, reminding us that the noir/pulp essays aren't reprinted in the trades. I can't blame the guy, he has to make a living and those essays are extremely interesting to someone like me.

    I'm almost positive I'd like Scalped too. I just don't want to begin reading, get invested in the story and have it end. This is what happened when I found 100 Bullets. By the time I'd started reading, 100 Bullets was around 80-90 issues in, so I just started slowly into the trades. Now if I want to read 100 Bullets, I have to wait until I have extra cash for a trades. So, I read up on it and apparently the current issue is just wrapping up an "arc" of sorts. I really don't like that word. Anyways, it seems like Scalped #43 might be a good place to start. Now it's just a question of whether I'd prefer to start on current issues that I can afford, or wait a while and start at the beginning through the trades.

    That's exactly what happened with me and Daredevil. I'd recently discovered Sin City and I was blown the fuck away, so I was on a Miller binge. Of course, by then, even I had heard of his Daredevil run. Ironically, to be as well-known as it is, his run was fairly difficult to find in a collected edition and I couldn't exactly afford single issues. So...one Wednesday, I just walked into the comic store and looked at the newest issue of Daredevil. It was #105 with a beautiful cover by Marko Djurdjevic with Mr. Fear's mask reflecting a very pissed off DD. I bought it almost completely on a whim, with no indication of whether or not I'd enjoy it, and here I am today hopelessly addicted to both Daredevil and Ed Brubaker. Thanks, Mr. Fear.

    I guess that's probably true with any title that's been around as long as Hellblazer. Good writers will come and go, so it might be better to read individual trades from familiar faces.
  • ZephyranthesZephyranthes Mad Mod Poet God Joined: Posts: 2,355Registered
    Is it true that the essays/backmatter aren't reprinted? I know they aren't in the paperback collections, but are they in the deluxe hardcovers? I was under the impression that they were reprinted in the hardcovers. But I don't own the CRIMINAAAAAAL!!!1 HC and I have never seen a copy that wasn't shrink-wrapped, so I don't know for sure.

    If it makes you feel better, I haven't finished reading 100 Bullets myself. I think I've read up to volume 8 or 9. I own them all except for volume 12, which is the only book, for some reason, I haven't been able to find for 50% off or cheaper. I already have volume 13.

    Honestly, I would say you're better off waiting for the TRADE, BABY in just about any case. Yeah, I do wanna support a series if it seems like it's in the danger zone, but I think Scalped is safe. I think it's established itself well enough that the only danger it's in is whatever danger Vertigo as a whole is in. (And who knows what the hell will happen now that DC Entertainment has been going through all the restructuring and shakeups.) I guess it's selfish of me to always be on the lookout for cheap deals in the second-hand or overstock market, but at this point in my life, I do have to be fairly frugal with my expenditures. It takes a lot to inspire me to support a comic on a monthly basis now.
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  • thecarnalcorpsethecarnalcorpse ~Damaged Joined: Posts: 285Registered
    I've never looked inside the hardcover editions either. However, the description for the Criminal hardcover on Amazon sites "selected articles" as a feature. Maybe Brubaker is only referring to trades?

    When I was at my shop earlier I brought up my predicament with Scalped, which somehow led to 100 Bullets, and this guy offered to lend me Vol. 7-13. Of course this is the same guy who keeps saying he'll let me borrow Darwyn Cooke's adaptation of Richard Stark's The Hunter. So maybe I'll get to finally finish 100 Bullets, but I'm not gonna get my hopes up.

    I haven't really come to a conclusion on how I'll read Scalped, but I'm leaning more towards the trades. There is no need to explain though, I can fully understand your frugality. I don't think it's selfish at all, in fact, it's admirable. I wish I had the patience to wait for a comic series to be collected and search out good deals through secondhand markets. But alas, I am driven by impatience and a compulsion to buy my books new.
  • ZephyranthesZephyranthes Mad Mod Poet God Joined: Posts: 2,355Registered
    The Hunter was really quite good. COOKE's second Stark adaptation just came out recently, too. I heard that The Outfit is even better than The Hunter. I gotta check that out.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the CRIMINAAAAAAAAL!!1 hardcover collects a lot of the backmatter from the issues that initially was promised to not be reprinted. I ain't angry if they reneged on that promise. I still feel like CRIMINAAAAAAAAAL!!1 and Incognito are worth the $3.50. There's something to respect about a carefully-constructed comic that takes more than 3 minutes to read and has very few, if any, advertisements. I respect that.
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  • thecarnalcorpsethecarnalcorpse ~Damaged Joined: Posts: 285Registered
    Several months ago, I bought this oversized prelude to The Outfit called The Man With the Getaway Face for a mere $2. I don't know how many pages it was, but it was over way too damn fast. So yeah, I want to read it, but not as badly as I want to finish 100 Bullets.

    Either way, I'm grateful for the articles. I read them with almost the same vigor as I do the actual story. Hell, if it weren't for them, authors like Elmore Leonard and Richard Stark wouldn't even be on my radar.
  • ZephyranthesZephyranthes Mad Mod Poet God Joined: Posts: 2,355Registered
    Keep your eyes out for Vertigo Resurrected: The Extremist, which ships this week. It collects the four issues miniseries by Milligan and Ted McKeever that was one of the very first original Vertigo comics when the imprint was birthed. It still holds up today. Great collection for a pretty nice price.
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  • thecarnalcorpsethecarnalcorpse ~Damaged Joined: Posts: 285Registered
    I knew I was forgetting something. I asked the shop owner about it, and he said he didn't really care for it. However, I forgot to flip through it personally. Generally, I avoid things that expensive because I only buy around 10 titles a month, so purchasing something like that basically doubles my weekly allotment for comics in one damn swoop. If he still has a copy tomorrow, I'll definitely look at it.

    By the way, remember that previously mentioned acquaintance? Yeah, he actually went above and beyond, and left me a whole short box full of comics I've been wanting to read for years. Not only did he bring The Hunter and 100 Bullets Vol. 7-13, but he also threw in El Diablo, Filthy Rich, Selina's Big Score, American Century Vol. 1-2, Loveless Vol. 2-3, Scalped Vol. 2-4, and Preacher Vol. 1-9. He also told the owner to remind me that I wasn't obligated to read any of the extra stuff and there is no rush. Are you kidding? I'm gonna read all this shit, twice. It figures as soon as I lose faith, he pulls through.

    I'm such a bastard.
  • ZephyranthesZephyranthes Mad Mod Poet God Joined: Posts: 2,355Registered
    Very nice. That's a whole lotta reading ahead of you. Definitely gonna be a happy Thanksgiving. I was always curious about El Diablo. Azzarello, right? You'll have to let me know how that is. Filthy Rich is good stuff. I like all of those Vertigo Crime books I've read. I haven't read American Century, either. I think it was one of those series that got canceled before its time and they never did trades that collected all of it.

    Definitely pick up The Extremist. It's worth skipping out on a couple of titles. You'll get your money's worth. There really isn't much else like it and the artwork and colors look even sharper in this reprint.
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