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Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm 3.

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I didn't see a thread for this, so here it is.

I know the majority of the world probably doesn't take Naruto seriously, nonetheless the franchise's games, but please for the sake of relevance, don't bring any of that "Naruto is for kiddies" bullshit in here. If you want to troll then go somewhere else.

Anyway, I'm making this thread as a general discussion hub for the Ninja Storm games (Ninja Storm 2, 3, Generations, ect.) There doesn't seem to be much of a community around this game hence it doesn't really tread into the competitive scene, but I know I'm not the only one who enjoys these games and has questions regarding it.

To start us off:

Storm 3 Trailers:


It looks like they're bringing back the AWESOME story mode fights in this one like Storm 2 had. I was really disappointed when I hopped onto Generations for the first time only to see that the story mode was just a bunch of fights with different people. The nine-tails battle at the beggining looks fucking nuts. Also makes me wonder if they're gonna start putting in giant characters, or if he'll be playable at all. Wouldn't it be awesome to be able to play as Nine Tails and face off against Gaara's sand demon?

In terms of an actual tier list, this is the closest thing I could find that seemed accurate. Don't bitch just because it's on gamefaqs, because it's all I could really find. If anyone knows where a better list is hosted then please let me know and I'll update the post.

Discussion on health changes, ring outs, Awakenings, ect.
Off screen Nine-Tails boss battle (Looks fucking awesome, check it out)
Pre-Order Incentives for Storm 3.
Scans for some of the new playable characters.

Changes to battle system:

Will update post with more info if anything else important comes up. Might post some character data if the thread gets enough attention. I don't wanna look up all that information if no one's gonna use it.
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  • The MartianThe Martian I squee for Squigly. Joined: Posts: 1,418Registered
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  • SaikyoStyleSaikyoStyle Klusterfuk Joined: Posts: 610Registered
    The only Naruto fighter I've played/owned is NS2. Hard learning curve without a manual but overall the fighting is more satisfying than the PS2 Inuyasha fighter and the later DBZ Tenkaichi games. Seriously, Budokai 3 had a great feel to it, then Tenkaichi happened and it was like...what the fuck, why fix what isn't broken?! But I digress, this is a Naruto thread and HINATA AND HAKU ARE THE BEST, NO ARGUMENTS!
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  • The MartianThe Martian I squee for Squigly. Joined: Posts: 1,418Registered
    Haku is badass. It really seems like Mask, Deidara and Minato are in the like, borderline broken tier though.

    I'd really like to get good with Gaara or Kisame, but they're just so damn slow. :shake:
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  • Phantom AngelPhantom Angel ファントム Joined: Posts: 899Registered
    :db: The best

    I skipped Generations so, I can't wait for 3. I like the new gameplay elements they've added between this and Generations but, I hope the online is better than 2.
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  • GonoXLGonoXL Joined: Posts: 36Registered
    Wondering why sasuke is so high on that tier list? His grab is godlike, but all his other moves and damage seem pretty standard. The only top tier ability I found was susano'o, but I quickly discovered going on offense shuts it down completely. It's attacks are too slow to start when pressured. (Ironically, the exact opposite of how susanoo should play)
  • The MartianThe Martian I squee for Squigly. Joined: Posts: 1,418Registered
    Wondering why sasuke is so high on that tier list? His grab is godlike, but all his other moves and damage seem pretty standard. The only top tier ability I found was susano'o, but I quickly discovered going on offense shuts it down completely. It's attacks are too slow to start when pressured. (Ironically, the exact opposite of how susanoo should play)
    Yeah, pretty sure it's mostly because of his awakening. Which is weird because it's not nearly one of the best awakenings in the game.

    Minato is borderline broken because of his...
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  • ShariShari Overestimated. Joined: Posts: 2,545Registered


    ls the game as shallow as described in the video ?
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  • The MartianThe Martian I squee for Squigly. Joined: Posts: 1,418Registered

    ls the game as shallow as described in the video ?
    Video is all wrong. I watched it for about 2 minutes then stopped once I heard the guy saying stupid bullshit about the combo system.

    The combo system in this game is simple for the most part, but that's because it's a fighter that doesn't really focus on long combos and locking down your opponent. At least, not in the traditional sense. So, here's the run down.

    The only button used for normals in this game is B. Pressing B in combination with different strokes of the control stick causes different combos of varying damage and style to come out. Teleporting out of hitstun is possible, but you can only do it a limited amount of times before having to wait for it to recharge again (Storm 2 doesn't show the stamina bar for teleportations, but in Generations there is one to show you how many teleports you have left). Often what happens in this game, is that you're trying to have more stamina than your opponent does so you can lock them down and keep them from escaping your combos with teleports.

    Storm isn't a competitive-centric fighter because a lot of people consider a lot of the factors in it "game breaking", such as awakenings, item usage, ect. However, the reality is probably just that no one wants to play a competitive fighter with such limited combo options, or a Naruto fighter to begin with...:bluu:

    However, the beauty of this game is that it puts more focus on fun rather than actually "winning", per se. This is one of the few fighters I can play, lose often in, and still want to play more because of how damn fun and stylish the fights are. Trust me, nothing is funner than watching two advanced Storm players go at it. The fights are CRAZY fast paced and almost every fight is on par with fights that could have actually taken place in the show. Sometimes it even gets to a point where the fights are so fast that its hard for spectators to even realize what's going on. That's why I love this game. Fights are crazy action packed, and stylish as FUCK. Hell, even dashing around in a circle is cool looking. And since there is only one button for normals, they have intentionally made it easier for EVERYONE to enjoy themselves and have action packed, high paced and crazy ass fights, while at the same time the advanced players can have even crazier fights as well.

    It's a really good system, honestly. It has a few kinks, like dumb-ass items that no one uses really and one or two broken awakenings, but other than that it really is a solid and fun fighter. I would love to see them work out the bugs and make some changes to the system so that it could actually be considered a competitive fighter.
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  • ShariShari Overestimated. Joined: Posts: 2,545Registered
    Doesn't sound like a game i would like but have fun.
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  • The MartianThe Martian I squee for Squigly. Joined: Posts: 1,418Registered
    It's definitely not for everyone.
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  • Ben PerkinsBen Perkins Joined: Posts: 4,683Registered
    Someone tell me about UNS2 and UNSG. I'm nostalgic for the GC/Wii games and both of the 360 games are on sale at my gamestop. Tell me about both (and the pros/cons thereof) in excrutiating detail. Someone. Please.
  • The MartianThe Martian I squee for Squigly. Joined: Posts: 1,418Registered
    Someone tell me about UNS2 and UNSG. I'm nostalgic for the GC/Wii games and both of the 360 games are on sale at my gamestop. Tell me about both (and the pros/cons thereof) in excrutiating detail. Someone. Please.
    Look at my above post. If you have any other specific questions than just ask lol
    Video is all wrong. I watched it for about 2 minutes then stopped once I heard the guy saying stupid bullshit about the combo system.

    The combo system in this game is simple for the most part, but that's because it's a fighter that doesn't really focus on long combos and locking down your opponent. At least, not in the traditional sense. So, here's the run down.

    The only button used for normals in this game is B. Pressing B in combination with different strokes of the control stick causes different combos of varying damage and style to come out. Teleporting out of hitstun is possible, but you can only do it a limited amount of times before having to wait for it to recharge again (Storm 2 doesn't show the stamina bar for teleportations, but in Generations there is one to show you how many teleports you have left). Often what happens in this game, is that you're trying to have more stamina than your opponent does so you can lock them down and keep them from escaping your combos with teleports.

    Storm isn't a competitive-centric fighter because a lot of people consider a lot of the factors in it "game breaking", such as awakenings, item usage, ect. However, the reality is probably just that no one wants to play a competitive fighter with such limited combo options, or a Naruto fighter to begin with...:bluu:

    However, the beauty of this game is that it puts more focus on fun rather than actually "winning", per se. This is one of the few fighters I can play, lose often in, and still want to play more because of how damn fun and stylish the fights are. Trust me, nothing is funner than watching two advanced Storm players go at it. The fights are CRAZY fast paced and almost every fight is on par with fights that could have actually taken place in the show. Sometimes it even gets to a point where the fights are so fast that its hard for spectators to even realize what's going on. That's why I love this game. Fights are crazy action packed, and stylish as FUCK. Hell, even dashing around in a circle is cool looking. And since there is only one button for normals, they have intentionally made it easier for EVERYONE to enjoy themselves and have action packed, high paced and crazy ass fights, while at the same time the advanced players can have even crazier fights as well.

    It's a really good system, honestly. It has a few kinks, like dumb-ass items that no one uses really and one or two broken awakenings, but other than that it really is a solid and fun fighter. I would love to see them work out the bugs and make some changes to the system so that it could actually be considered a competitive fighter.
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  • The MartianThe Martian I squee for Squigly. Joined: Posts: 1,418Registered
    Someone tell me about UNS2 and UNSG. I'm nostalgic for the GC/Wii games and both of the 360 games are on sale at my gamestop. Tell me about both (and the pros/cons thereof) in excrutiating detail. Someone. Please.
    Also if you buy let's play that shit
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  • Ben PerkinsBen Perkins Joined: Posts: 4,683Registered
    -Is there a theater/watch fights mode in either?

    -Does it take a million years to unlock doods?

    -Is UNSG better than UNS2?

    -Is UNS2 better than UNSG?

    -70 characters is ALOT of characters, damn
  • The MartianThe Martian I squee for Squigly. Joined: Posts: 1,418Registered
    snip
    -No, but I'm pretty sure the next one coming out in March will have one.

    -In Generations, no Just play through story for 40 minutes and skip the cutscenes and you're done. Also I'm pretty sure you can just put cheats into both of them.

    -UNSG is better because there's WAY more characters AND assist only characters, none of which Storm 2 had. Generations also shows the substitution bar, which is really useful so you don't have to just guess when you have any teleports left like in Storm 2. However Storm 2 had a WAY better campaign because it let's you actually play out the anime scenarios, like 3 is doing.

    -Not really, no. Unless you care more about the campaign.

    -And 3 is gonna have even more.

    EDIT: NEVERMIND, THERE ARE REPLAYS I WAS WRONG.
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  • Ben PerkinsBen Perkins Joined: Posts: 4,683Registered
    Fuck, that's another game on the list for next year. I'm never gonna have any spare cash.

    I see that having a UNS2 save file gives you 11 characters in UNSG. CAn you get them without the save file? GameFAQs seems divided on this
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    Fuck, that's another game on the list for next year. I'm never gonna have any spare cash.

    I see that having a UNS2 save file gives you 11 characters in UNSG. CAn you get them without the save file? GameFAQs seems divided on this
    I actually had no clue about that :eek: What characters are they? If I have them then yes you can, because I don't have a Storn 2 save file on here.
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  • ZeroTheHeroZeroTheHero Nothing but GG's Joined: Posts: 36Registered
    Someone tell me about UNS2 and UNSG. I'm nostalgic for the GC/Wii games and both of the 360 games are on sale at my gamestop. Tell me about both (and the pros/cons thereof) in excrutiating detail. Someone. Please.

    basically the gameplay is like to make an entire game out of dragon rush mode from budokai 3 or tacs from marvel. A bunch of auto 50/50's and guessing which is fun but things like spacing, movement, reactions, and matchup knowledge take a backseat to concepts like option abuse,resource management, and being able to play a good game of rock paper scissors. You even have to implement guessing games and use stagger timing once a hit is landed since just like in earlier doa's there are no guaranteed combos everything can be substitution jutsu'ed even on hit. You never get rewarded for making smart decisions for this reason because there is no real advantage other than bar which is a pretty free resource to build so again it very difficult to play smart because everyone gets the same reward regardless of their decisions. Top tiers are usually pretty dominant because of awakening abilities because awakening abilities are the only guaranteed rewards in the game. Which is even scrubbier because its the ultra/ xfactor mechanic........ the reward you get for getting your ass handed to you. Other wise its pretty fun and looks pretty . From a competetive view though dont expect it to be very stimulating in that respect. Also I liked nuns2 the best cuz of lars thats it they are all pretty much the same its just a matter of what little nuances you like. I will say 2 had a pretty nice campaign though it was kinda like regular fighter story mode with some challenge tower style twists in their all wrapped in a jrpg shell.
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    I actually had no clue about that :eek: What characters are they? If I have them then yes you can, because I don't have a Storn 2 save file on here.


    The characters they give you are the Genin 12 + their sensei IIRC. Having Storm 1 gives Ino, Shikamaru, Choji, Neji, Tenten, Lee, Kiba, Hinata, Shino, Asuma, and Guy right off the bat. Storm 2 gives the Shippuden versions of those characters.
  • The MartianThe Martian I squee for Squigly. Joined: Posts: 1,418Registered
    basically the gameplay is like to make an entire game out of dragon rush mode from budokai 3 or tacs from marvel. A bunch of auto 50/50's and guessing which is fun but things like 1.spacing, movement, reactions, and matchup knowledge take a backseat to concepts like option abuse,resource management, and being able to play a good game of rock paper scissors. You even have to implement guessing games and use stagger timing once a hit is landed since just like in earlier doa's there are no guaranteed combos everything can be substitution jutsu'ed even on hit. You never get rewarded for making smart decisions for this reason 2.because there is no real advantage other than bar which is a pretty free resource to build so again it very difficult to play smart because everyone gets the same reward regardless of their decisions. Top tiers are usually pretty dominant because of awakening abilities because awakening abilities are the only guaranteed rewards in the game. Which is even scrubbier because its the ultra/ xfactor mechanic........ the reward you get for getting your ass handed to you. Other wise its pretty fun and looks pretty . From a competetive view though dont expect it to be very stimulating in that respect. Also I liked nuns2 the best cuz of 3.lars thats it they are all pretty much the same its just a matter of what little nuances you like. I will say 2 had a pretty nice campaign though it was kinda like regular fighter story mode with some challenge tower style twists in their all wrapped in a jrpg shell.

    1.Uh, spacing, movement and reactions AS WELL as substitution are the most important factors to winning a match. Knowing when to get in, knowing when to space out and zone, and knowing exactly where you want to dash are all things that you need to take into account if you're going to win. Tricking your opponent into wasting teleports, dashing in on other people's substitution, knowing when to guard a dash, ect. These are ALL things you need to take into account if you even want a chance at winning against a human player.

    Also...reactions and matchup knowledge take a backseat? Are you kidding me? You look me in the eye and tell me it's a good idea to rush down a good Lee player, or that this game doesn't usually require SUPERB timing and reaction capability.

    2.There are tons of advantages and strategies outside of bar, like tricking your opponent into wasting bar, or using certain assists with certain types of strategies. For example, Lee likes Hinata and Pain on guard assists because he can use them to protect him as he charges chakra. Characters like Itachi and Susaano Sasuke like Hidan's assist because they have weird normals and he can compensate for that, making the opponent waste subsitution or just keeping the opponent's pressure down. There's tons of factors that you're not taking into account.

    3.There are more differences between Storm 2 and Generations besides Lars (who wasn't even that good really). Such as the campaign, the visual substitution bar, assist only characters, way more regular characters...I'm starting to wonder if you ever even play these games.
    The characters they give you are the Genin 12 + their sensei IIRC. Having Storm 1 gives Ino, Shikamaru, Choji, Neji, Tenten, Lee, Kiba, Hinata, Shino, Asuma, and Guy right off the bat. Storm 2 gives the Shippuden versions of those characters.
    Oh, well then yeah, you can unlock those without the save file.


    Worst case scenario I'm pretty sure there's cheats too, so
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  • Ben PerkinsBen Perkins Joined: Posts: 4,683Registered
    Oh, well then yeah, you can unlock those without the save file.


    Worst case scenario I'm pretty sure there's cheats too, so


    Yes. Tale of Young Naruto Uzumaki gives the PTS characters. Tale of Naruto Uzumaki, I assume, gives the Shippuden characters.

    Grabbed off GameFAQs. Hopefully it's accurate, I think I'mma grab this tomorrow. Also hahaha tiny text!
  • ZeroTheHeroZeroTheHero Nothing but GG's Joined: Posts: 36Registered
    I'm starting to wonder if you ever even play these games.

    First off I'm an adult speak to me as such do not attempt to insult my knowledge about subject matter just because you do not carry my same view point.

    When it comes to your fist point you completely missed the other side of mine which was that things like resource management take precedent which most of your counterpoints are indeed based around resource management and being aple to play rps. Baiting your opp to teleport is an example of both encouraging your opponent to poorly spend his resources while getting him to guess incorrectly. Assist synergy is an example of option abuse. I also did not claim that none of those elements of spacing, movement, and reaction time did not exist in the game I simply stated that there importance is not as great as the resource management and guessing aspects. Roster change, campaign update etc are all little nuances. There were more changes in this years Call of Duty than there were between the 3 NUNS games combined.

    I'm not attacking your game dude I state both pro's as well as cons. This is why you dont see these kind of discussions here on SRK about other games because people like you open threads and get too sensitive about public opinion people either read it and leave it alone,or see that its easy to flamebait you and start trolling your shit. It's not a bad game, not great but not bad either.
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    snip
    I didn't mean for it to seem as if I was mad or something, but looking at it now I can see how one would think that lol.

    However I don't think that the spacing, baiting, movement and reaction aspects take a backseat to option abuses and the rock paper scissor factors. It seems as if you're stating that using the latter concepts is almost mandatory if you're wanting to beat any competent opponent at this game.
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    Is there a vs CPU mode in UNS: Generalizations? And how do I made money in this game?
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    DL'd the demos for both games, will post my thoughts here after
  • The MartianThe Martian I squee for Squigly. Joined: Posts: 1,418Registered
    Is there a vs CPU mode in UNS: Generalizations? And how do I made money in this game?
    Yeah, and you make money any time you complete a fight.

    Actually you pretty much unlock something every time you finish a fight. I'm still unlocking shit.
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    Yeah, and you make money any time you complete a fight.

    Actually you pretty much unlock something every time you finish a fight. I'm still unlocking shit.

    :rofl: Worrrrrrd. That's awesome
  • Ben PerkinsBen Perkins Joined: Posts: 4,683Registered
    Not impressed with UNS2 so far. Kakashi fucking cheats constantly.
  • Ben PerkinsBen Perkins Joined: Posts: 4,683Registered
    I liked Gen MUCH better. Gonna see if I can get a deal on it today.
  • ZeroTheHeroZeroTheHero Nothing but GG's Joined: Posts: 36Registered
    20 bucks on gamefly is the best deal i know of
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