yakult99, post: 7628061, member: 52160 wrote:
note on Abel:
normal TT = invincible to throws
ex.TT = invincible to attacks
This matchup is DDT setup all the way, worse than Geifs match up LOL.
And if player gets random TT or become smart and c.normals, then start your safe jump setups.
Occasionally just safe empty jump and Rocket if he start doing wake up ex.123 (1 armor tank).
If you are oilded, and blocks the first hit of his normal/ex.123 move, just twist Rocket for Punish.
Also safe slide into n.jump is good bait as well. If you are good with safe slide, you can do b.dash after contacts, which works well in this match up too.
Bakkd, post: 7623050, member: 59935 wrote:
Another thought I have is if we perhaps should make a new matchup thread; nothing big, just a copy-paste of the first page with some updates to each matchup so that they're up to notch. I also want to add a section with new setups, like a Samurai Drew setup section and so on. Watcha think? I could also chime in on the Gen and Sakura section since I've been playing against the top Sakura and Gen player for awhile now. Thoughts on this?
Bakkd, post: 7677250, member: 59935 wrote:
Edit: Why the fuck is Hakan's cr.mk unsafe on HIT? Fucking retarded.
Pritz, post: 7679851, member: 10595 wrote:
Cause it's special cancel-able?
bubafeast, post: 7680000, member: 16725 wrote:
Ryu's c.mk is safe on hit.
Pritz, post: 7680010, member: 10595 wrote:
His cr.hp is -12 on hit.
Pritz, post: 7681681, member: 10595 wrote:
That's kind of my point. Cr.mk isn't for randomly tossing out in footsies. It's good for combos and whiff punishes. Stick to mp if you want some safe footsies.
yakult99, post: 7688595, member: 52160 wrote:
..that's why Hakan is low tier.
Only when he is oiled up he can tank through others.. not with footsie.
When dry.. u stick to safe jump setups and knock down to oil.
His best footsie poke is s.hp, s.mp, f.lp, f.lk. almost everything else is unsafe on blocks and some even on hit.
Bakkd, post: 7717460, member: 59935 wrote:
Aprox 6:44 in, Kimo's Hakan vs Vangief's Zangief. Holy shit. Kimo is showing some excellent tech against Gief's crossup shenanigans.